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    Post by Snowbunny on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:20 pm

    If any touchy subjects are brought up, I'll move it to the Sensitive Subjects forum. Until then it's an open discussion to talk about anything you want that's MJ related.


    Since this is called "MJ Deep Discussion" I'd like to talk about what you think of his family and how they took a (bad) toll on his life. It's my belief that it's not all Joe's fault. After reading Jackson Family Values by Jermaine's ex, it made me really look at the family, namely Katherine and Jermaine, in a new light. Nobody's perfect, but good lord. (If anyone hasn't read it PM me).
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    Post by Veronica4MJ on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:25 pm

    Yes. I've read that book to and I really couldn't believe it. But I think Margaret (sc) was being truthful because she even explained that Janet, Michael, and Marlon stayed away from the family as much as possible, which is true. Especially for Michael later in life.


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    Post by 1morechance on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:27 pm

    I have not read the book, but I have reason to believe that there are a lot of things that have taken place which have led Michael to somewhat stray away from his family.


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    Post by Snowbunny on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:28 pm

    1morechance wrote:I have not read the book, but I have reason to believe that there are a lot of things that have taken place which have led Michael to somewhat stray away from his family.

    The book was really a jaw dropper. It's one of those things that makes you go "Is it over exaggerated, or is it 100%?". The whole book is about Jermaine, Katherine, and Joe. I didn't know she was the one that put together the Jacksons: An American Dream movie. Really thankful of her for that.

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    Post by 1morechance on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:30 pm

    Ah ok. Seems like it would be a good read. Gonna find it so I can read.


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    Post by Veronica4MJ on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:32 pm

    I can't remember what exactly happened, but I was definitely getting teas that Katherine Jackson is/was an enabler with her children. I know I shouldn't let someone's opinion affect mine, but after I put the book down I lost a little respect for that whole family, honestly.


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    Post by 1morechance on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:35 pm

    I certainly do not hold a negative bone for the parents, they are what helped the kids be here. But I would hope that the enabling was not due to selfish reasons.


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    Post by Snowbunny on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:40 pm

    Found a link about JFV's review. Had to translate, so I'll quote it in English. Sort of a long read.

    MARGARET says: ... That Michael and Liz Got closer after IT went to The hospital in June one thousand nine hundred and ninety and That after A remark About her from Jermaine, michael said That She was Beautiful. - That Michael'' stole'' Babyface from Jermaine Which was Jermaine's excuse for Word to The Badd. - Michael seemed to Eat Only rice and beans and IT was A Sugar junkie. - He Only invited His Mother , Jermaine and Margaret for A Tour of Margaret wondered why Joseph wasn't there. She talked About it to Katherine Who asked Michael. He told her That She knows IT doesn't want Joseph there and She knows why. - One Funny story: Then there was Bubbles The chimp. When Bubbles wasn't with His trainer, IT Would live with Michael in His room dressed in diapers and clothing, just Like A Little Kid. Once A new nanny went into The laundry room looking for A clean outfit for my son and mistakenly dressed him in one of Bubble's costume, all of Which Michael had Custom-made. - Michael's room was The largest in The house and was two-story high. He had His own jacuzzi and A private entrance where IT can Come and Go as IT pleased. -Michael once told His Mom IT wouldn't Leave their Encino Home until IT could purchase The house of His dream Five times over. 'He wanted to make sure after IT left That IT Would Never have Come back to Havenhurst''. - She talks About The Little Zoo they had. Margaret said that the animals all looked as if they were out of a Disney cartoon. There was also A giraffe but The neighbors complained That IT was eating The tops of their Trees and Michael had to give him Away. He wasn't very happy About it. - I think its in one thousand nine hundred eighty-nine, She talks About her two Kids growing older and needing A new place: '' At The same time, Michael bought A condo at The 14th floor of The Westford on Wilshire Boulevard because IT was required to Be in town for Business and wanted A place to stay. His new condominium was A large, modern Three bedroom place His nephews nicknamed'' The Hideout'' It was nice but nothing fancy. '' It was The Favorite place of Tito's Children -When IT was in The hospital Margaret brought Michael some clothes: .. When I returned, my gift were received with thanks and an invitation to Leave. Elizabeth was going to Visit and Michael wanted some privacy. Jermaine made ​​A wisecrack About Elizabeth and was quickly put in His place. '' Do not ever talk Bad About Elizabeth Taylor to me, Jermaine,'' Michael said softly. '' She's Beautiful. The most Beautiful Woman I've ever met.'' By this time Michael and Elizabeth were already acquainted, but their Friendship Would grow closer during His brief stay in The hospital. She came for visits several times A Day and sometimes brought him violets, Which stood in sweet contrast to The dozen black roses LaToia had had delivered from London. - She said That Michael's negotiations with Babyface and LA Reid changed His relationship with Jermaine forever and That Jermaine's song Created A Rift That continues to this Day. She doesn't blame Michael because IT acted as A shrewd Business man as IT should Be. Jermaine tried to contact Michael several times after IT learned That Babyface and Reid were working for Michael but His calls were Not returned. The morning after The song was leaked Michael came to Havenhurst to talk to Jermaine in The Trophy room, Katherine came to mediate. Katherine told Margaret That Jermaine had been mean Michael Who was crying wondering why IT did this. (I 'm quoting now) Katherine said Jermaine slammed his hand down on the table and said,'' You're just mad because it's my turn now. Somebody else is getting some of The spotlight.'' Michael told him IT was His brother and how IT could write such Things About him. He ASK Jermaine Not to release this song for His own career. It won't ruin Michael's career but ruin Jermaine's. He gave Jermaine The NUMBER of to His Trailer for His Next Video so IT can call and Tell him IT won't release this as A Single. Jermaine Never call and said That its time That someone out some'' fire UNDER His ass'' That Michael wasn't '' The Only one Who can bring some heat''. Jermaine thought IT Would make A career out of it. -Margaret Later found out That Katherine blamed her for The whole debacle.The spouses always took The blame for The Jacksons' wrongdoings. - its Katherine Who handled Michael and Janet so they could sign their life rights into The Jacksons: An American Dreams. But they made ​​several demands thorugh attorneys and Michael insisted for someone Beautiful to play His Mother. -The family knew About The vitiligo years Before The Oprah interview. Joe and Katherine were stunned by Michael's candor in this interview and Joe was depressed When Michael said IT felt nauseous at The sight of His father. Michael gave him A Range Rove as A gift. -She said That nothing She has Seen in Michael duirng The years She knows him Would suggest IT Would Be capable of molesting Children. It was absurd. -Jermaine, Katherine and Joseph flew to Taiwan where Michael was performing. Jermaine brought The letter of intent for The Jackson Family Honor Show and IT made ​​Michael signed it. Katherine was angry at Jermaine and Joseph for hounding Michael has IT was treated for exhaustion and fed intravenously. -In November 1994 her sons joined Michael, Taj, Terrell and TJ in Chicago for photoshoots for His new album and Michael made ​​sure That her sons checked in with her ​​every night. Michael Would talk to her and She said IT sounded happy with His life again. But Katherine was sad and was hoping IT Would Come back one Day.

    http://mjmyinspiration.blogspot.com/2011/08/jackson-family-values.html
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    Post by Snowbunny on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:44 pm

    Has anyone read LaToya's book? Jetzi has it but I'm almost scared to read it.
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    Post by Stacey on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:51 pm

    Hey guys. Just getting in here.

    I don't think I've gotten the chance the read JFV, but I'd like to. Admin, can you send me the link? And I haven't read LaToya's book either - Don't want to. If she lied in detail about Michael being a predator, I don't even wanna touch the book itself. I'd rather burn my hands off.


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    Post by MyFave on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:14 pm

    Dame Paris wrote:Has anyone read LaToya's book? Jetzi has it but I'm almost scared to read it.

     im scared to read it too mainly because how influenced she was by her x manager/hubby


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    Post by Snowbunny on Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:05 am

    MyFave wrote:
    Dame Paris wrote:Has anyone read LaToya's book? Jetzi has it but I'm almost scared to read it.

     im scared to read it too mainly because how influenced she was by her x manager/hubby

    That creep Rolling Eyes

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